Gauger: Answering Art Hunt on Real Time Evolution

Just to be clear, here are the specific genetic manipulations:

All they did was remove a section of DNA upstream of the gene so that it would be expressed even in the presence of histidine. If the gene is not expressed then there can’t be selection for beneficial mutations in that gene. In other words, they simply made it possible to select for and detect mutations that changed the activity from his+ to trp+. The genetic manipulations themselves did not cause those mutations. The mutations that did occur in the hisA gene are entirely natural.

Let’s compare the methods used by Nasvall et al. to the methods used by Gauger and Axe:

What did Gauger and Axe conclude from this work?

Gauger and Axe used designed site directed mutagenesis to change amino acid residues, and they concluded that this was a fair test for evolution. For those who may not be familiar with this process, it involves the purposeful targeting of a base or several bases to produce a specific change in sequence. Gauger and Axe also had the manipulated gene on an engineered plasmid that guaranteed its expression in all conditions, just as was the result of the manipulations Nasvall et al. introduced. Gauger and Axe also grew the bacteria in an artificial environment where they added or subtracted biotin.

In comparison, Nasvall et al. allowed the gene to be mutated naturally by the mechanisms already present in the bacteria. @Agauger is now saying that allowing the gene to be mutated naturally is not valid for testing evolution, but is already an author on a paper where there were designed and targeted mutations, artificial promoters, and artificial environments. Even with all of these conditions, the experiments in the Gauger and Axe paper were considered a valid test of evolution. These positions don’t square up.

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