Genetic confirmation of a hybrid between two highly divergent cardinalid species

[thoughtful (Valerie (non-scientist))]

@Rumraket

All we could say is that such individuals should, on average, be comparatively more rare than hybrids between less diverged species. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

Searched a few days ago; as far as I can tell, that evidence doesn’t exist because hybrids haven’t been categorized that way as far as. I found this lovely Avian hybrid website though. Don’t have time to go through all the research to categorize them by divergence time, even for the birds. https://avianhybrids.wordpress.com/

@RonSewell

Even hardened baraminologists do not regard hybrid ability to be the end all for kind identification.

I don’t even know what you’re saying here.

@RonSewell

animals presented as modern phenotypes back to and past the purported time of Noah,

Give an example of a baramin phenotype that creationists have described and we have not found in the archaeological record.

@Roy

Not according to the major professional creationism advocates, all of whom suggest the animals were placed into some form of suspended animation (in order to avoid having to deal with food/water requirements, predation and having offspring).

Yeah, not so much. Caring for the Animals on the Ark | Answers in Genesis

@Roy

Because mutation rates are similar across different species. They’ve been measured.

Please share the examples of mutation rates in different animal families.