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It is beyond the norms, but probably fine leaving enough leaving alone.
Atheists will do the same thing sometimes. Funny how that works. 
Curious; in what way ābeyond the norms?ā In tone? Lack of question-asking? Lack of progress? How would you characterize it? Who would you reprove? Pretty sure theological discussions are not considered beyond the norms?
Much more attention to this question would get you much farther. It is almost entertaining it takes this long to see you ask a question like this. There are several ways people are exploring to answer this question. You are not the first to ask or answer it. We know your answer, but it does not seem you know any of the answers we have offered.
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I am not repproving anyone.
I am observing that @Jeremy_Christian is fixated on several idiosyncratic details, even though seems genuinely wanting to engage. I wonder how he is going to open his mind here.
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Pretty sure Iāve seen progress.
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It seems like you are fighting. Not in a terribly nasty way, but enough to make me wonder if I should intervene as a moderator. If this groups is OK with with this sort of discussion, Iām happy to let you play ball.
I would reprove everyone - or no one. I donāt have time to figure out who is right and who is wrong, nor is it my job to take sides. My concern is that people should be treating each other respectfully.
I could close comments - that probably the only fair thing to do. But if everyone is happy, then PLAY BALL!!! 
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I think this whole exchange should be shifted to an appropriately named thread. The problem is that this pattern is repeating several times on different threads.
@Jeremy_Christian, I need you to help us keep things on topic. If you want to restart conversation on one of your ideas, go to an appropriate thread. This thread, for example, is about RTBās model, not yours. Stay on topic. Sound good?
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Sorry, still learning my way around.
George helped me understand a few things. Up to this point I kept treading on what was described to me as your āgoalsā, but didnāt understand what exactly I was saying to cause this response. I read all over the site trying to understand, but George finally laid it out for me. I think this will help me with how things work around here.
Itās all a lot of topics that bleed into each other, being that theyāre all so related and interlinked. Iāll do my best to hop around according to protocol and topic.
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Thereās reason for that. For example, in the middle of my exchange with George where he was laying out the goals of the RTB model, he said this ā¦
So, which way to go here? Iām discussing my take of on free will (thread #1) in reference to the RTB model (thread #2). I was bated!
It was explained to me that this is one of the central tenets of organized religion that this model seeks to avoid conflict with. I assume you read through the discussion. I was speaking of another conflict that wasnāt being talked about, apparently. Thereās some issues related specifically to the model as it was described to me that I am keenly interested in hearing your thoughts on.
I want it to be clear, I believe in what youāre doing here. If it hasnāt been made apparent, this is something very close to my heart. A passion project of sorts. This site is the first sign Iāve seen of something that holds the potential for real progress. Understand, Iāve been very alone on this front for a very long time. Your goals (again, as theyāve been described to me) and my goals are very much in line. I just stumbled on a community who shares my goals.
Iāve been campaigning for harmony between God and science for a very long time. Published articles, done a couple of podcasts on the topic. Two episodes of Dogma Debate, an atheist podcast that just moved to PodcastOne, if you ever feel like tracking those down.
Thatās more the exception than the rule, wouldnāt you say? Most children when it comes to puppies and kittens are reduced to saps like the rest of us. And like that gorilla.
Thatās a human child, by the way. There are a number of ways post-fall humans differ from their mammalian cousins. Thereās a quote from the Matrix that applies here that Iām fond of ā¦
Agent Smith: Iād like to share a revelation that Iāve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that youāre not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. Youāre a plague and we are the cure.
Because without knowledge of the law there is no sin. Paul did NOT say that there was no sin because some humans have no free will.
You misunderstand meā¦ in part because i wasnt clear.
There is nothing for me to wreckā¦ the wrecking ball is in YOUR hands.
Let me know when you have read up on the Bible a bit more. Paul explains when sin arrives. You are lost in your own rhetoric.
Wellā¦ almost.
I am here because @swamidass wants me here.
And i see RED when some try to hijack the groupās focus.
I want you both here. There is room enough for @Jeremy_Christian, but it would be nice if we can move past the same back and forth on free will.
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This is pretty entertaining @Jeremy_Christian. There are a lot of theologians who have said precisely this. You didnāt know?
I dont believe you were bated.
BATED Definition & Usage Examples | Dictionary.com
And you werent even BAITED.
I was trying to reel you back inā¦ and you just couldnt stop yourself.
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