@Patrick [quote=“Patrick, post:146, topic:960”]
ID is not science, it is creationism
That is totally false. Creationism, YEC, OEC and progressive, are all subsets of ID but ID is more than those subsets. ID does not say anything about worship- nothing on who, how, when, why nor when. You have to redefine religion to say that ID is religion. John Morris, the president of the Institute for Creation Research:
“The differences between Biblical creationism and the IDM should become clear. As an unashamedly Christian/creationist organization, ICR is concerned with the reputation of our God and desires to point all men back to Him. We are not in this work merely to do good science, although this is of great importance to us. We care that students and society are brainwashed away from a relationship with their Creator/Savior. While all creationists necessarily believe in intelligent design, not all ID proponents believe in God. ID is strictly a non-Christian movement, and while ICR values and supports their work, we cannot join them.”
Mike Gene, author of “The Design Matrix”, had an essay about Intelligent Design that opened with:
"What is Intelligent Design? If you ask a critic, he will probably tell you that ID is a disguised version of Creationism and nothing more than a Trojan Horse to get God taught in the public schools. If you ask a typical proponent of ID, he will probably tell you that ID is the best explanation for various biotic phenomena.
For me, ID begins exactly as William Dembski said it begins – with a question":
Intelligent design begins with a seemingly innocuous question: Can objects, even if nothing is known about how they arose, exhibit features that reliably signal the action of an intelligent cause?
"The first thing to note about the question is that you don’t have to be a religious fundamentalist to ask it. You don’t have to be a religious fundamentalist to consider it. In fact, you don’t even have to be a religious fundamentalist to answer it."
What is Intelligent Design?
Intelligent Design is the study of patterns in nature that are best explained as the result of intelligence. – William A. Dembski
Design theory—also called design or the design argument—is the view that nature shows tangible signs of having been designed by a preexisting intelligence. It has been around, in one form or another, since the time of ancient Greece.
ID is based on three premises and the inference that follows (DeWolf et al., “Darwinism, Design and Public Education”, pg. 92):
High information content (or specified complexity) and irreducible complexity constitute strong indicators or hallmarks of (past) intelligent design.
Biological systems have a high information content (or specified complexity) and utilize subsystems that manifest irreducible complexity.
Naturalistic mechanisms or undirected causes do not suffice to explain the origin of information (specified complexity) or irreducible complexity.
Therefore, intelligent design constitutes the best explanations for the origin of information and irreducible complexity in biological systems.
ID is testable and potentially falsifiable. That is by far more than blind watchmaker evolution has