Meaning and Purpose Among the Nones

You don’t want me to answer that. :stuck_out_tongue:

Let me decide if I still want to converse with you first.

Let me be more specific.

Consider a shirt. It is generally taken to be a material object. But it is made into a particular shape, and the cloth has a particular texture. Should we take the shape to be material or to be immaterial? And I can ask the same about the texture.

For me the meaning and purpose of life, right now, is to enjoy my son’s wedding coming up in July.

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Hey, congratulations!

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We live on a LIVING planet. That Pale Blue dot.

I’m spiritual. :sunglasses:

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Because it happens too often. And we keep saying “this shouldn’t be happening” and proceed to do NOTHING about it.

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I wouldn’t say that. Certainly it is a source that people can derive purpose from if they choose, but it doesn’t make sense as a purpose independently.

I’ve seen other reports which suggest up a considerably higher percentage of the US may be atheists than is shown by polling. Atheists underreport, and people who report as belonging to a religion may be atheists in fact. Those people presumably find meaning and purpose in their community life. And sure, many “nones” are “spiritual” as well.

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This is a good point, but even if this is true:

it would change the number of Nones that are non-religious, but it does not change the number of Nones that polled as spiritual (the ~75% of all Americans that was quoted). This is because the Pew polling previously cited asked two questions: “Are you religious?” and “Are you spiritual?”. If atheists under-report, the true number of atheists (non-religious) will be higher than the percentage answering “no” to the first question. But atheists under-reporting won’t change the percentage of “yes’s” to the second question. This will still result in most Nones being spiritual.

If most Nones are spiritual, regardless of what they thought of their religious status, I find it believable that most Nones find meaning and purpose in their spirituality.

I wouldn’t expect you to. :slightly_smiling_face:

It rather does. Our purpose is wrapped up in God’s and in his fatherhood. He wants to increase his joy by sharing it – adopting more errant children, rescuing them from themselves.

To a degree, I’m sure. As has been pointed out, “spirituality” isn’t a very clearly defined concept. I’d be interested to hear their stories!

I also find purpose and meaning in my spirituality. :sunglasses:

You lie. :sunglasses:

I certainly don’t lie about this. I am a very honest and spiritual person. :sunglasses:

You don’t believe in the immaterial, nor do you think that you are religious or have religious beliefs.

According to you, atheism is a religion. So #2 applies. I am very spiritual in my non-belief of your God.

And you are zealous and fervent as you religiously oppose religion.

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That’s also called talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Around here we call it talking out of one’s ass. :sunglasses: