Well, I can quote what I wrote on the other thread.
Initially I had come across a poorly written ScienceNews article and it gave the impression that Neaderthals occupied the site, then Homo Sapiens, then Neaderthals again separately, thousands of years apart. Since that thread was about worldview I thought I’d explain sometimes dating seems to go against intuition about how humans act - and these occupations make more sense years or decades apart. And plus the scientists think homo sapiens sailed to France. Any mention of possible ancient sailing always amuses me because it’s an argument I tried to make to @swamidass that the authors of the Penteteuch knew the world was a globe, Sargon of Akkad mentioned sailing, and it’s something I came away with thinking was prolific soon after the flood after watching Jeanson’s presentations, even though that’s something he didn’t really mention. Anyway, since I have a hard time understanding the papers themselves sometimes, I thought I’d search the scientist’s name for more articles to see if I could better understand what the research was. I came across the Conversation piece and was really impressed with the scientists’ work and enthusiasm for it, so I thought it deserved it’s own thread, as I know many here like to follow new human history research and it was just really interesting.
I realized I got the wrong impression from the ScienceNews article after reading this.
Vandevelde was then able to determine how much time separated the last Neanderthal fire from the first modern human fire in the cave, showing that it was only a maximum of a year between Neanderthals using Grotte Mandrin and modern humans moving in.
I also read this paragraph and thought it may be really good evidence against YEC.
We first discovered these sooted vault fragments in 2006, and the team recovered thousands, year after year, in every archaeological layer of Mandrin. A decade of work by team member Ségolène Vandevelde has shown that these patterns can be read like tree rings to tell us with what frequency and duration the groups visited the site, demonstrating that human groups came to Mandrin some 500 times over 80,000 years.
I created the post on the forum while thinking that. I decided I had to read the linked paper on the soot patterns to see. I read through it, had to look up a lot of terms, but as far as I could tell there are around 500 seasonal occupations of the site, but they are calibrated against mainstream dates so it isn’t completely independent. But I’m curious about that too, to see if anyone has a better understanding than me. I couldn’t understand what they were trying to say when they mentioned formation of growth could be decennial rather than annual. I wondered why they had to mention that.