My friend Patrick,
We shall all one day see. Revelation 19-21 Take care today and have a good one. Also, His name is Bart Ehrman. I make typos too. Look at the article attached and you shall see. I just had to correct my typo.
But if you’d only read Ehrman’s own blog post, he says he’s an agnostic, now. Big difference, as you know. See the post referenced above and below…
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You are correct. Dr. Bart Ehrman is not an atheist; on the contrary, he is an agnostic. As a Baptist, I pray that he will come back to the Christian Church. You are a good person, Guy. Also, I contacted Bart one time about 2 Corinthians 5:1. He said that he believed that Paul was saying that we have an eternal intermediate body that our spirit enters when we go to heaven. At the Second coming, he thinks Paul believed that the spirit, eternal intermediate body will unite with the body in the grave creating the resurrection body. I will quote a theologian who believed this view.
The End Times by Herman A. Hoyt
Intermediate Body. Third every saved person is clothed with an intermediate body. Certain texts strongly intimate that there is such a body. There is a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal, in the heavens (II Corinthians 5:1). This body is said to be eternal because it is merged with the resurrection at the time of the resurrection. The preparation of the intermediate body is a miraculous operation of God. Therefore, to be clothed with this body during the intermediate state will not leave one naked (the spirit) II Corinthians 5:2-4.
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Please explain what you see as the difference between an atheist and an agnostic?
Ehrman explains it himself in his blogpost; at least, his understanding of it.
Patrick,
It can be found in a dictionary. Atheism is an absolute belief in the none existence of God; whereas simply said, the individual does not know whether there is a god or not. Look it up in your dictionary if you do not believe me.
Patrick, do not waste my time. If you do not want to believe, that is your problem and your right. Do not try to usurp my rights to have faith. Remember, 0+0= 0 but God + 0 = creation in any form.
I agree with what Ehrman writes: In short, many atheists seem to think that agnostics are just wimpy atheists; and many agnostics seem to think that atheists are just arrogant agnostics. That is to say: atheists think that agnostics are afraid to follow the truth of their convictions; and agnostics think that atheists claim to know far more than they could possibly know.
That is why I say I am a 6.9 agnostic on the Dawkins Scale as technically saying that you know that there is no God is very dishonest. I like to say that I am an atheist to the tirant God of the OT and the too meek and innocent God of the NT. But most people really don’t care as they lump agnostics, atheists and nones into the same barrel.
Don’t get all snooty about it. People label other people all the time without understanding of definitions, motives and conviction. I see not believing as an exhilarating freedom of thought and expression. Certainly not a problem.
Sure and God equals the square root of -1.
What I have written is logical. I thought you were going to change and be mannerly about the Blog. You already have one flag. Do you want to try to obtain another.
What I have written is logical too. You can write mathematical equations and I can too. Why is your’s okay and mine not okay?
No joke. Do you get pleasure out of this?
Why do you pray for Bart Ehrman? Why don’t you just leave him be. He is a man of his own convictions. He seems reasonable happy in his life. Why does he need you praying for him? He probable feels that it is a meaningless gesture anyway. As doing nothing is the same as praying.
What I do with my faith has nothing to do with you doctor.
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No pleasure at all. I am appalled at the level of hate and disdain coming out of one human being concerning another human being. What’s next saying Bart Erhman is going to hell if he doesn’t repent and believe in your God?
And nothing to do with Bart Ehrman. Leave him alone. Don’t pray for him. Just leave him be.
I will do as I wish just as you do.
Pretty sure you didn’t want your original post to turn into trading ad hominem remarks, am I right, @Patrick ? It would seem you understand Ehrman’s comments, now, and see your error in calling him an atheist, when that’s not how he describes himself.
What else do you want us to know about Ehrman?
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Read Ehrman’s words, he is an atheist!
Ehrman: When it comes to faith, I am an atheist. I don’t believe in the traditional Judeo-Christian God (or in Zeus, Aphrodite, Hermes, Apollo, etc)
Read all the way to the very end.
" I suppose I lean toward “agnostic” rather than “atheist” simply because as a scholar and professional thinker I am, at the end of the day, more interested in “knowledge” than “faith.” Moreover, the term does seem to me to convey a greater sense of humility in the face of an incredibly awesome universe, about which I know so little. I happen to think that humility is a good thing in these circumstances. At the same time, I can understand why others may want to emphasize what they do not believe rather than what they do not know, and so call themselves atheist. (Why they are so incensed that I don’t follow suit, however, continues to be a mystery to me.)"
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