Alright guys, seems like you are in a loop. Remember, you are friends, and you are going to disagree on things from time to time. Take a break and come back to it.
Many TE say the same thing. The key distinguisher is common descent. Though this reminds me of A Blurry Line Between TE and OEC. I think you both are very close to being both TE and OEC at the same time. Many people @gbrooks9 would say (incorrectly in my view) that guided-evolution is not evolution, but just OEC.