Side Comments: Is there really information being conveyed within a cell?

[Rumraket (Mikkel R.)]

@Giltil

@theaz101 said the following:
My claim is that all functional digital information, which requires elements (dots/dashes, bits, nucleobases) of a coding system to be put into functional sequences, requires intelligence to do so.

To which @Puck_Mendelssohn replied the following:
As @Rumraket points out, of course, this is contrary to what we know to be true, so that’s a bit of a problem.
The word « this » in Puck response refers to theaz’s claim, right? So what on earth is wrong when I say that Puck has claimed that saying that systems such as the genetic code require an intelligence is contrary to what we know to be true? Just curious.

These two are not the same:

@theaz101

all functional digital information, which requires elements (dots/dashes, bits, nucleobases) of a coding system

@Giltil

systems such as the genetic code

theas101 is talking about all functional digital information which requires elements of a coding system, such as bits or nucleobases, which by what those words mean can be any functional genetic sequence.

I point out that we have directly observed functional genetic sequences evolve, so as @Puck_Mendelssohn is right to point out, @theaz101’s claim is contrary to what we know to be true.

You then start talking about the translation system (the genetic code is the translation system, of course). Apparently taking that when Puck agrees with me then Puck is claiming—you seem to think—that we have somehow empirically proven that little magical hammers/wands/fingers of Thor, Hermione Granger, or Yahweh, aren’t invisibly pushing the molecules around against their physical tendensies when the translation system evolved.

Which makes me think you can’t read.