Let me give you a clue… as per the Indian constitution, India is a socialist republic…
But it’s not communist.
Disbelief is about “what you believe” – it’s that your beliefs do not include a belief in something – in this case a deity.
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Would this belief be -
a) God does not exist.
b) God exists but is not worthy of worship.
Can you tell me what athiests “believe”?
The latter is Misotheism, not Atheism. I would consider the former as a misstatement of atheism.
As I said, it is a lack of belief, a passive position, rather than a positive belief that God does not exist. If it were this positive belief, then Agnostic Atheists could not exist – but they clearly think that they do, so it would seem that their definition of Atheism cannot be your (a).
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Exactly. If your beliefs don’t include deities then you are an atheist.
I am doing no such thing.
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Let me try and make sense of this.
Take the below statement:
A. There is a God and he is the source of everything that exists (this is a definition of God).
A can be either true or not true…
One can positively believe either that A is true… or one can believe that A is not true.
Where the middle position of athiesm?
Communism is where the government owns the means of production within the economy. There is nothing in communism that requires persecution of religions.
Sure, if history is ignored.
Or one can not believe A is true. That’s the third option. I don’t believe my house is currently on fire, but I also can’t say that my house is currently not on fire. If I go home and see my house is on fire then I will believe that my house is on fire.
You can lack a belief in gods without also needing to believe that gods don’t exist.
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Every communist country could have allowed religious freedom.
But we’re not ignoring history, you are:
Basically, you are saying you dont know whether it is true.
So according to you an athiests is a guy or girl who doesnt know whether God/gods exist.
And if he/she is also not an agnostic, He/she believes its possible to know whether God exists.(but not possible to know that God does not exist).
Would this be a fair definition?
In that case, shouldn’t an athiest always be trying to find out whether God exists?
Many Communists regimes have been antitheistic, but that does not mean that communism is inherently antitheistic.
Yes, and that’s where agnosticism can come in. But you can be both an agnostic and an atheist.
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It has been historically antithiestic wherever it has come to power.
So, pretty much every communist “regime” in history has been antithiestic.
I am saying that I don’t believe it is true.
According to me, an atheist is someone who doesn’t believe deities exist.
An agnostic lacks knowledge of deities. Knowledge and beliefs are two different things.
I would guess that you don’t believe Bigfoot exists. How much time do you spend looking for Bigfoot?
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So what do you call a person who believes God doesnt exist…
These people exist. And they usually identify themselves as athiest. How do I know you guys aren’t hijacking such a person’s identity by redefining what athiesm means?
Such a person would lack a belief in deities, so they would be an atheist. There are atheists who claim that gods don’t exist and there are atheists who leave the possibility open. There are also atheists who play golf, but that doesn’t make golf part of atheism.
“A lack of belief in gods” defines all atheists. It is what all atheists have in common.
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I dont believe Bigfoot is important to my final destiny. So I dont spend any time looking for him.
To be Frank, I dont care whether Bigfoot exists.
That’s not the case with God.
I share the same belief towards deities.
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