That’s not a nested hierarchy. You’ve merely divided the four cars into two groups.
Despite having been shown several examples of cladograms earlier in the thread, you apparently haven’t got the faintest idea what they are, let alone how to construct them.
The dolphin groups with humans. The next clade down is dolphin/human/icthyosaur.
Sharks are the outgroup. This is the canonical phylogeny. Here are the forelimbs:
first: is actually not so easy. only in rare cases we can find such a system (it means that most cars still give us the correct phyloeny). secondly: we find similar situations with living things too:
It isn’t rare at all. It is pervasive in the phylogeny of vehicles. It is further demonstrated by your inability to use characteristics to support your phylogenies.
why should i do that if i already showed that we find the same with living things?
i will tell you more than that. lets say just for the sake of the argument that you are right and we cant do that with vehicles. even in such a case it doesnt matter at all since we all know that vehicles are the product of design. thus even if we find out that we can arrange vehicles in a nested hierarchy it doesnt prove that they evolved from each other. so the argument is wrong in any case.
If you don’t have a cladistic analysis of vehicles then you don’t have the same thing.
The point is that there is no reason for life to fall into a nested hierarchy if life is designed. A designer could have mixed and matched features and genes in almost any combination the designer wanted. However, the theory of evolution predicts that we should see a noisy nested hierarchy, and that is exactly what we see. Design doesn’t predict the pattern we see, but evolution does.
If we threw in piston vs. turbine engines we would get yet another completely different phylogeny. There are cars, motorcylces, boats, and airplanes that use turbine engines that would be grouped together in one clade with other cars, motorcycles, boats, and airplanes grouped in a piston engine clade. Massive violations are easy to fine.