Maybe it’s time to return to this topic? When two extreme views like
George and Eddie can agree on something, EF Hutton needs to listen:
I quote Eddie here:
“I’m not actually proposing any particular number of rooms. I was merely trying to show that any question that anyone might have, could be explored someplace on the site without subjecting people like you and me to constant off-topic anti-theistic excursions by atheists. I don’t care how many rooms there are or how the topics are divided.”
That’s a very disingenuous response, since you’ve shifted from “views on forum structure” to opinions in general.
I would be extremely surprised if you could find even one dead evolutionist whose opinions on the structure of this forum are still extremely relevant to these boards.
All you are trying to do is deflect the discussion away from the one
issue that two nearly-mortal-enemies could immediately agree upon:
TO PARAPHRASE AND RE-DEFINE THE POINT:
"If we can’t get ID arguments segregated into a separate arena, please
name a folder named: “Christians who defend Evolutionary Biology”.
I would think many members of these boards would be delighted not
to have to read most of my postings, yes?
Literally nothing at all is forcing anybody to read any postings, yours or anyone else’s. Nobody has to do it. You are crying for a solution to something that is not at all a problem in need of one.
Respectfully, I fail to see the relevancy of that statistic to the claim I was responding to, or to the things I said in response. For that matter, I have no clue what about my reply, or the passage I was replying to, should have accounted in some unspecified way for people from one camp or another.
You conjectured that many members of these boards would be delighted not to have to read most of your postings. Fact of the matter is, zero members of these boards are under any obligation to read most of your postings. Whether that delights any of them I suppose is for them to report, but zero of them, I assure you, are actually being forced to endure your postings. The “problem”, that anybody has to read your postings, simply put, just doesn’t exist.
If you can explain how numbers of posters from this or that camp has some relevancy to who is or is not forced to read forum messages, or how they feel about being under such coersion, by all means, be my guest.
And yet YOU continue to read them and are upset by them.
This is MY reaction to all this public bandwidth devoted to marginal issues
like I.D. discussions where virtually all the pro-Evolution responses INSULT
ME AND MY DIGNITY by definitively attempting to away God.
If you give me a correctly named folder, I will stay there. And I won’t
upset you with my religious fixations. And I think you will be surprised at
a steady increase in new or silent participants who suddenly have a
voice that feels respected.
I do not understand your objection. Why is it an “and yet”? I did not have to read your posting. I chose to. And I felt like correcting you on the point that anybody has to read your postings, when in fact everybody (shy of moderators, I guess) is free to read or to skip what ever they please. Where you gathered that I was upset with anything is a riddle, but one I do not particularly care to solve at this juncture.
As to your dissatisfaction with the frequency of topics, that’s none of my business. For that matter, neither is how you are being treated by others. If you have a problem with my conduct with you so far, by all means, we can talk about it in private, and if you feel like I am being insufficiently forthcoming, we can involve forum staff, too.
Lastly, since I do not, in fact, feel upset by your religious fixations (of which I have yet to see a sign, really; everything I have read from you so far is whining about forum structure), I have no intention to segregate your postings away from the rest of the forum. They are one at times amusing change of pace and I welcome them right here among the rest of the board. Of course, I would not have the power to displace them either way, but if my opinion as a forum user were to be polled one of these days, I for one would not vote in favour of creating a special place for you.
All I want to do is enter a folder where I do not have to weed my
way through dozens of posts where Atheists suggest either the absence of God, or the inability of God to design evolution. If and when someone wants
to discuss whether there is a God or not, he or she can always leave the
folder and join the “greater fray”.
Naturally, you and others can still get exposed to my amusing narratives by entering the folder yourself.
This is a Win/Win proposal. It would shut off my “noise” instantly.
Oh. Yes, my bad. I was under the impression that you were saying your postings were upsetting me, and that I should therefore want to place you someplace I do not have to read you. Apparently, the one actually upset with the state of things is… you. Because somebody is forcing you to weed your way through dozens of posts where capital-A Atheists suggest either God’s absence or inability to design evolution. Personally, I have yet to see one post that said either of those things, let alone one that you were personally forced to read. But it is not my place to deny your lived experience, so when you say you have to weed through dozens of them, fair enough.
Perhaps it is time you spoke to the person who is forcing you to do that, then. Or, if they are unresponsive and unwilling to allow you to not do that, perhaps the police might be of service. I’m not sure how the existence of a new room would release you from that predicament, but who knows.
As I said, nothing about your noise is upsetting to me. I have neither the power nor the ambition to shut it off instantly. If having a separate room would allow you to not weed through dozens of upsetting posts, that certainly sounds to me like a win for you, and I wish you all the best on your campaign to achieve such liberation.
Allow me to elaborate: people dislike you not because you’re a Christian but because you are (at least in this online forum) a rude and unpleasant person. And it isn’t just the atheists who think that.
