The standard cosmological model predicts the ratio of elements and isotopes in the early universe to a high degree of accuracy (confirmed by e.g. measurements of the spectral lines of very distant stars, with the slight hitch that the number it gives for the trace amount of lithium seems to be wrong - though by less than an order of magnitude).
Also:
If you don’t understand it yet (because you need to Ph.D. to do so) then it doesn’t actually make sense in your head. It’s one thing to play around with ideas for fun - I do so myself - but it’s quite another to come up with a theory that actually works in practice and explains the data as well as existing theories. Don’t get ahead of yourself.
OK. I don’t think my model is different enough for that to matter.
It is just for fun. Though I think there’s enough there maybe for a physicist to take something from it. I just wanted to understand what the first few days of Genesis meant.
he who removes mountains, and they know it not,
when he overturns them in his anger,
6 who shakes the earth out of its place,
and its pillars tremble;
7 who commands the sun, and it does not rise;
who seals up the stars;
8 who alone stretched out the heavens
and trampled the waves of the sea;
9 who made the Bear and Orion,
the Pleiades and the chambers of the south;
10 who does great things beyond searching out,
and marvelous things beyond number.
Isaiah 42
Thus says God, the Lord,
who created the heavens and stretched them out,
who spread out the earth and what comes from it,
who gives breath to the people on it
and spirit to those who walk in it:
Isaiah 45:
Thus says the Lord,
the Holy One of Israel, and the one who formed him:
“Ask me of things to come;
will you command me concerning my children and the work of my hands?[b]
12 I made the earth
and created man on it;
it was my hands that stretched out the heavens,
and I commanded all their host.
Also Isaiah 44 and 51, Jeremiah 10 and 51, Zechariah 12
A working model wouldn’t have to repeat the claim as the evidence. God causing the expansion is the claim. You need evidence independent of this claim if this is going to be a scientific model.
Distant galaxies aren’t time travelling.
Why would this produce a background radiation of microwaves?
Does science have any explanation for how the Higgs came about, even though they know it exists? Isn’t it called the God particle? Is that evidence enough?
The light is.
Someone else has to work this out. I’ve never taken a physics class. YouTube will not cut it
“I think the Bible uses stretches out in a past tense,”
a fact which could change the argument entirely, and possibly, in her favor. If the heavens were stretched out in a “historical temporal” manner, starting from earth backwards in time, that could potentially change everything.
[Edit: I don’t need people getting on here telling me that time does not flow backwards. I am well aware of that fact. What is being proposed here would require a hard-coded spacetime metric that moved mathematically backwards in time. Since God lives in all temporal time zones, including past and present, he would have no problem accessing the past, even several billions of years, and constructing a spacetime with a deep temporal history hard-coded the further one moved radially away from earth. I am not saying inherent problems do not loom in that kind of model. Rather, I am simply informing you in advance that the forward flow of time is not one of those problems.]
Valerie, there’s no reason to read those verses literally rather than metaphorically as a description of God’s creation of the skies. They don’t refer to the expansion of space, an idea that would have been entirely alien to Isaiah or the author of Job. They are poetically likening the skies to a fabric that God spreads out over the world like a tent (note that the Hebrew word has a broader range of meaning than “stretch”).
In fact literally the only reason to read those verses literal is because of the discovery of the cosmic expansion. But (1), that’s a terrible reason, since it is anachronistic eisegesis, and (2), that same discovery emphatically does not support a literal reading in other places, such as Genesis 1.
I don’t think you really understand how entirely different the implications are - not unless you assume that God miraculous created the universe in 6 days but filled to the brim with evidence of a 13.8 billion year fictional history.
The timeline is based on a few bad assumptions. My hypothesis already fixes one. Genetics throws any other dating into question. Basically you’ve wiped the slate clean if this hypothesis has any merit.
Big time disagree! Psalm 104 is most certainly about the global Flood of Noah! She is not making anything up. It may be that her purity of thought in this matter - and the fact that she is not formally educated - has allowed her to see the spiritual far better than her peers or even those ‘more qualified’ (tongue in cheek).
@thoughtful, just for the record, I completely agree with you. Ps 104 is about the Flood of judgment at the time of Noah.
God made the atmosphere. 