We Are Mystified by Eric Holloway

[swamidass (S. Joshua Swamidass)]

@EricMH

Even if you prove all his implementations don’t work, he can always fall back on that basic claim that all order in nature is ID.

Exactly, this is why the whole implementation exercise @swamidass had me do is pointless, which I said from the beginning. @swamidass needs to state his argument against ID instead of this long misdirection he had me doing for weeks.

I think I have stated the argument, several times. I just did it again.

@swamidass

In a deterministic world of perfect knowledge, taking into account the whole system, the information no-growth algorithm applies. However in the real world, where we do not have perfect knowledge and only look at parts of the system, it just does not apply.

You doubted this. The implementation challenges that keep arising demonstrate this point.

@swamidass

That is what I told @EricMH in the beginning.

And it is what I am telling you now. You are equivocating different types of information.