Moving the goalpost! ??? No, I am just making sure we understand each other better. You even said yourself that PS’s goal is to establish Common Ground for understanding each other.
Now, what I am about to tell you is something I mentioned to you before in previous topics. If you did not read it last time around, then I am really going to need you to read it this time. Otherwise, I don’t see how we will be able to move forward in our conversation. I will try to be clear and concise this time around.
One of the two biggest reasons why people believe God cannot be a scientific hypothesis is the false presupposition of materialism or substance dualism. Most people often forget or don’t realize that there is a third option: Idealism . Let me bring some context before I elaborate on this:
What is Objective Reality?
Realism is the view point that external things are real and exist independently of mind in the form of either materialism or idealism. Naturalism is the viewpoint that only natural laws and forces govern the structure and behavior of the natural world, and that the changing universe is at every stage a product of these laws in the form of either materialism or idealism.
Materialism is the viewpoint that material things shape our ideas and ideologies. In contrast, idealism states that ideas come first and then changes in material things are consciously pursued in accordance with those ideas.
Substance dualism is the view that material things and ideas are both fundamental substances of existence (I.e. supernatural vs natural). Furthermore, this viewpoint states that the mental can exist outside of the body, and the body cannot. Where the immortal souls occupy an independent realm of existence distinct from that of the physical world.
However, Substance dualism is unparsimonius and untestable while materialism has been disconfirmed so many times by experiments that a consensus on the matter has developed [just ask for reference]. This leaves us with a form of idealism that places wave-functions and human consciousness as representing objective reality where space-time is influenced and emerges from.
Therefore, when you say things like “It’s not possible to refute divine (supernatural) action”, all you are doing is attacking a strawman because the natural vs supernatural dichotomy is a hallmark of substance dualism. But, I am arguing for idealism where there is only one substance and one reality that exists, which would fundamentally be a Quantum reality.
I am not sure I understand what you were suggesting here.
I think I see what you are trying to argue now. Another user made a similar objection when he said…If ‘God moves in mysterious way’, how can we tell if the hypothesis is disproven, or if God is just being mysterious again?
As I told @Tim, God’s actions would only be unconstrained like this in regards to his relationship with mankind NOT with his relationship with nature and the animal kingdom.
If you insist otherwise, then what is the basis for this claim on your end.
Well, I was not necessarily trying to provide a novel scientific hypothesis from an original research standpoint within this topic. Instead, it was constructed as more of a review article where I accumulate the results of many different articles on a particular topic into a coherent narrative to argue that current literature already supports how a quantum mind must have created life/viruses on earth.