Perhaps this needs a thread of its own, but a FB friend points out this, the begging of a series of AiG articles decrying even minor accommodation of evolution, no matter how reasonable.
I take this as a sign that AiG knows its position is weak, and is acting to crack down even harder against dissent from within.
It is not at all clear from this article how the âYoung Earthâ in âYoung Earth Evolutionâ comes into it. There appears to be no âYoung Earthâ in feathered dinosaurs (though Iâm amused that they dismiss all the fossil evidence as âno reason (and no real data to back up this claim)â).
I see it as âhard linersâ taking a stand against those saying waitaminute maybe feathers are OK, or any other modification that science might have gotten something right after all.
It would appear to be the case of dinosaurs-with-feathers are okay (if, they claim, not supported by evidence), but dinosaurs-with-feathers-related-to-birds emphatically not. But this still leaves the label âYoung Earth Evolutionâ more than a little of a misnomer.
The label âYoung Earth Evolutionâ would in fact appear to be better fit for the âhyperevolutionâ required to get from the limited number of kinds that would fit on the Ark to the biodiversity we see today.
Ken Coulson, whom I am not really familiar with, and Todd Wood, come under fire for allowing that there is any ambiguity in the evidence. Apparently, when AiG states that the evidence is the same, and they just look at it with a creationist lens, nobody is permitted to even acknowledge the scientific view.
Maybe, AiG feels threatened and is lashing out, perhaps they think themselves unassailable as the priesthood of origins. But these are very odd targets. Wise and Wood were instrumental in the whole YEC shift from micro evolution limited to a bit of size and color, to allowing the vast tally of species to derive from a few hundred created kinds. AiGâs Jeanson built on this foundation. That AiG is choking on what is a matter of degree demonstrates just how arbitrary the whole baraminology exercise really is.
I see theyâre finally cracking down on Todd Wood and Kurt Wise for their acceptance of the horse and whale evolutionary series. Because everyone knows that the Bible says âAnd God created the pakicetids and ambulocetids and protocetids and odontocetes and mysticetes separately, each one reproducing after its own kind.â AiG is clearly no longer interested in whatâs biblical or not (if they ever were); they just want everyone to agree with what they say.
I donât know what it is about the horses, but whales are clearly sea creatures, created on Day 5, while ambulocetids are land creatures, created on Day 6. The two canât be mixed. Similarly, birds (Day 5) and dinosaurs (Day 6) canât be related either. Thatâs just science. Still, I donât know what to do with sea otters, sea snakes, and such.
In looking up references to the above, I noticed something interesting. Wood has an article on his blog that includes the following quote:
I described my own interaction with the horses in an article for Answers , Horse fossils and the nature of science. In a nutshell, using baraminology techniques, I found (to my surprise) that all fossil equids appear to belong to a single baramin, and are thus descended from an ancestral pair of horses on the ark. To be blunter than I could be in Answers , the evolutionists got that one right, and we creationists appear to have gotten it wrong.
However, when you click on that link you are taken to an AiG article that, while about horse evolution, is not attributed to Wood and does not resemble the summary he gives above. The AiG article is also dated several months later than Woodâs blog post.
I can only conclude that Answers in Genesis deleted or moved Woods original article acknowledging that âthe evolutionists got⌠one rightâ and replaced it with one with which they were more ideologically comfortable, but kept the same URL so readers of Woodsâ blog would be directed there. Classy,
I donât know which day corresponds to the Devonian period, but apparently God saw fit to create all the transitional tetrapods and then just stopped back then.
While they arenât aggressive, Iâm not sure how they would judge my being in the way of getting some air. On second thought, maybe this belongs in the discussion of intentionality.
One of the really great things about sea snakes, in my admittedly limited experience, is that they rarely confuse abstractions for real things. That would certainly help that discussion, even if the snake were a bit bitey.
True 'nuf, but If I were confronted by a sea snake on this forum, I might be driven to abstraction. (Would I be able to keep as cool as a sea cucumber? Donât know.)
I remember the philosophical murder thriller âFatal Abstraction.â Glenn Close boils a sea cucumber in that one while contemplating the nature of consciousness and wondering whether it suffers.
Maybe this move is in response to the fact that people such as the respected denizens of Peaceful Science have forced the hands of AiG, ICR, CMI, etc., by constantly focusing on Wise, Wood, et al. in their critiques of YEC. If you constantly focus on a single small group of YECs and claim they are closet evolutionists and agreeing with evolutionists in certain respects, then you cannot come out and attack those organizations for distinguishing themselves from them. You forced them to by constantly presenting YEC as fairly represented by Wise and Wood, as people like @Joel_Duff constantly imply, when that school is a minority within YEC. AiG, et al are protecting themselves from criticism coming from you guys.