To bad. Teachers Unions across the country has made it so that teachers can earn a good salary and benefits. Maybe the teachers should think about this when they decline to join the teachers union.
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He shouldn’t have been the basketball coach.
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Obviously I don’t since I am from urban New Jersey.
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I am sure that 40% of the folks in New Mexico ARE atheists and didn’t want to hear how Jesus could improve their foul shooting percentage. Yes, I find the work that I do with FFRF to be very meaningful. You can easily reach me here as BL is pretty much a dead forum.
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That’s really not the best logic… logic like that was used to justify why a new American territory could become a slave state if the majority wanted it to be a slave state…
Anyway, … I think you have to move 40% downward…
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I am talking about among the boys on the basketball team - the victims of the coach’s proselytizing. Today across the country more than 40% of millennials are Nones. These boys needed a coach who could teach them through sports the critical life skills needed to live and do well in a secular society.
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You kinda miss the point, Jay.
The coach’s actions violated the Constitution of the United States of America.
Public Schools shouldn’t do that.
The school superintendent understood that, hence his quick action.
Why don’t you?
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India has a slightly different take on secularism. It has its on problems but it has proven to work fairly well in a multiethnic, multi religious set up. The differences are mainly in how the state handles marriage, dietary customs etc. Marriage is a good example. While there are laws for contract marriage (The special marriage Act), there are also separate laws governing Hindu, Muslim,Christian,parsi marriages. This kind of approach makes it easy to legislate in a way that does not discriminate against any religion while maintaining Individual freedoms (atleast in principle). For example, if India ever made same sex marriages legal, it would be far less controversial in a religious sense as the govt wouldn’t change the Hindu,Christian,parsieyc marriage act. The only amendment would be to the Special marriage Act.
As of now, we don’t have too much of a problem in education as a large chunk of education is provided by private players. A disproportionate no: of these (with respect to population) are Christian schools.
Perhaps the solution would be more affordable high quality private schools.
If Christians can do it in India, why not the US?
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Christians do as well as they can in a country where they are not in the majority.
Christians in a country where Christianity enjoys dominance probably behave a little differently. But the country becomes more and more diverse, in a country where the political goal was to allow diversity, and to not tolerate any governmental funding for any specific denomination or faith.
In America, the day that Evangelicals or some specific group wins Supreme court tolerance of religious funding … that will be the day that Satanic groups of all stripes will be lining up for their share of funding as well.
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That is very pessimistic. Stick around and reason with us.
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Or, at least try! The rhetoric of intolerance around here can get a little thick, at times, but putting things into proper context, like you did, can show it for what it is. Thanks for a good and detailed reply!
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Patrick, being a none does not equate to being an athiest. The percentage of athiests in the American population is 3%.
I am talking about the boys on the basketball team who will be adults soon in an increasingly secular society. They have a right to a decent secular education. This coach proselytizing them is illegal and will not be tolerated in any public school in the US. That is why I find working with FFRF so meaningful.
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For minors… i have only word- parental consent.
Anyway, its your laws… and i was correcting you on your misunderstanding on “nones”… all of them are not atiests… the smallest minority among them are.
Go watch “Breakthrough” or any number of other “faith-based” films, @Patrick, and just be aware that, especially in small communities, in circumstances like these, it’s not necessarily the case that any kind of coercive “proselytizing” is taking place, when a student consensus exists, and the ideas generate from them.
Parental consent doesn’t apply here. Even if every parent of every child consent to have their child proselytized to, it would still be unconstitutional. The school must be neutral on religion. Religion is not to enter into the hallways, gymnasiums, counselling offices.
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That is quite an overreach of Establishment clause interpretation you’ve got going, there!
Like I said, it’s your laws… sometimes laws are wrong… sometimes they are unpractical. Sometimes they are stupid and sometimes they are misused.
I really don’t want to comment on this.
I just hope you don’t end up with empty schools.
It is established case law in regards to children in public schools.
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Overreach in law is always litigable.
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