Yadavas live in India today. A branch of them left Indus Valley for Israel c. 1500 BCE. The beginnings would be around 3000 BCE depending upon where we begin the lineage.
Of course. The critical point is that Bible says they came from Mitsrayim; and Hindu texts say they left from Mathura.
Evidence of this? And more importantly evidence that they are the same group that you claim existed " c. 1500 BCE"? Iâm sure that there were a great number of, likely unconnected, groups claiming descent from Yadu.
I will also note that we are talking about the Yadava, not the Yadav, unless can provide hard evidence that they are one and the same.
But you have no evidence of this claim â simply a number of vague parallels between the Exodus account and places in South West Asia â parallels that have no direct connection to the Yadavas.
What, non-literary, evidence do you have for this claim?
No, the âcritical pointâ is that youâre trying to connect a non-existent migration with a(n apparently) non-existent ancient group.
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Utter nonsense. Is there a flag for ideas so bereft of merit that they do not warrant discussion? The Hebrew people are Semites. The Hebrew language is Semitic, cognate to other middle eastern languages such as Ugaritic and foreign in vocabulary and structure to Indo-European languages. The Pentateuch is written in Hebrew and it extensively and clearly identifies Egypt as the land of the Exodus narrative, and Ur as the city of origin for the patriarchs.
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More to the point, itâs also foreign to Dravidian languages.
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Is it to the point, given that the Dravidian languages are spoken in the South of India far to the south of the Indus River, except for a small offshoot, the Brahui, in the Balochistan Province of Pakistan a fair distance to the North West of the river?
This is of course muddied by the fact that we have no evidence linking the Yadavas to the Indus River, or to anything else outside ancient & legendary Indian literature.
Yes, because Indo-European is a comparatively recent import to the subcontinent, and thereâs a Dravidian substrate in the areas in which Indo-European languages are spoken there today. Of course thereâs no great evidence that the Harappan language was Dravidian, but itâs at least much more likely than that it was Indo-European. I have, on the other hand, no idea what the Yadavas are, where they lived if indeed theyâre real, or what language they spoke.
I will try to reply to your other points subsequently when I have more time. For the present please see pic of Table 3 of Sahoo paper attached. IT shows 4 of 8 Bihar Yadavas have R2 gene (which is, I believe, same as R-M124). Thx.
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No it does not. It shows 4 of 8 Bihar" Yadavs have that gene not Yadavas!
(Parenthetically, that is a ludicrously small, and geographically biased, sample size to base any wider conclusions about Yadav genetics on.)
What part of:
⌠did you fail to comprehend?
This is particularly so, as the label âYadavâ and their claim of descent from Yadu, appear to be fairly recent: dating from the â19th and 20th centuriesâ according to Wikipedia, and connected to efforts to raise their caste status (âSanskritisationâ).
This does not appear to establish any factual link between them and ancient Indian legends.
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- Krishna was born from the line of Yayati and Yadu
https://www.jatland.com/home/History_of_the_Jats:Dr_Kanungo/The_legend_about_the_Yadu_Tribe
[Page 196]: lived together,obeying the command of Ugrasena, the head of the leading clan of the Bhojas (who being descended from the Haihayas represented the eldest line of Yadu). Ugrasena was called King only by courtesy. He was the Grand Patriarch of the whole tribe by sufferance, without any pretension to despotic authority; real power was vested in a Council of Elders, consisting of the most influential persons of the different gotras. His position was, so to say, like that of the recognized head of a Jat barah or chaurasia, i.e., a group of twelve or eighty-four villages inhabited mainly by the same people. But an Aurangzeb was born to Ugrasena, the cruel and resolute Kansa, who imprisoned his father and usurped despotic authority over the Yadus with the help of some powerful mercenary fighters. The upstart, having married two daughters of the powerful Magadha Emperor Jarasandha, swelled up with pride and was half ashamed to call himself a Yadava. He reduced the junior clans of the Yadavas to the position of subjects and his tyranny drove many of them to cattle-rearing[6] as a means of livelihood, which could no longer be earned by the sword and as members of the ruling aristocracy. Shri Krishna killed the wicked Kansa and restored Ugrasena to his authority. Eighteen times did the haughty prince of Magadha renew his attack upon the Yadavas to avenge the death of his son-in-law; as often was he forced to retire discomfited. At last worn out in an unequal conflict, the Yadava chiefs decided upon the evacuation of the Mathura region, where their powerful enemy gave them no peace.
The Yadus were indifferent in their allegiance to the Vedic gods and the Brahmans, nay more positively hostile, if we are to believe the Pauranic traditions. They insulted their purohit [family-priest] Gargya, who vowed vengeance upon them and did penance to Rudra in order to get a son[7] âcapable of humbling the pride of the Andhaka and Brishni clansâ (Harivamsa chap. 114). They owed their final
River Sea (me write) Krishna didnât die; instead krishna went to Yisrael. Oh and Mathura is Mitsrayim., thatâs where Mitsrayim is located.
So thatâs how the Yadavas end up being cattle rearing., Hebrews also were cattle rearing too.
I understand this isnât showing the R-M124 gene
However I was looking to your question @Tim about to show same of Yadava and Yadav; I donât think it shown Yadav though., Iâm learning and this is how I learn. Iâll share my journey. Wait thereâs this word Yadus.
All that appears to be legend NOT evidence.
Let us rest here. We can reconnect after u have studied hindi and sanskrit. But thank u for prodding me to look deeper.
Will learning either of these provide evidence that the Yadavs (a group whose label only dates to the last couple of centuries) are the same as the Yadavas (a group that appears to only exist in ancient Indian legends)?
If not, then Iâd suggest you âreconnectâ with reality. 
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Iâll take that as no, it will not provide evidence that the Yadavs (a group whose label only dates to the last couple of centuries) are the same as the Yadavas (a group that appears to only exist in ancient Indian legends).
So, no I will not learn Hindi and Sanskrit â which in any case was an absolutely ridiculous thing to ask of somebody just because they refuse to accept some half-baked unsubstantiated claim on some internet forum thread.
And no, you havenât provided hard evidence that the Yadava and the Yadav are one and the same. So I will not accept that any evidence about the Yadav is evidence about the Yadava.
This means that the Yadava are simply a story from ancient Indian legend. No more, and particularly no DNA and no âYadava-Hebrewsâ.
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