So nonsensical that what you must consider stupid and ignorant physicists built the bomb squarely based on that equation and it actually worked. No proof in that pudding.
Rascal. That video was junk. As my mother would say… Tell me something I don’t know. But he did not define the units of measurement of gamma. is that meters per second? is the atom going 6… 6 what? per second? per year? Or till the equation works out?
I will look.
Who said that it worked. Do you really think some guy stood there with a thermometer or their equipment could accurately quantify it. They could only approximate it.
And the point isn’t if the math doesn’t add up. The question is does meters or Light matter. the M and 900,000,000 may work or it might really be 1 billion x M = Joules. The point is. speed of light may have absolutely no bearing on the internal workings of the atom to suggest that its speed is determinate. Its not like you could fly one direction and come to a dead stop and remove the mass from something by dropping out of warp. LoL. Captain. I cant find my Drawers. Scott! did you drop out of warp again!
Physicists are very careful about this sort of thing. The equation works with any consistent set of units.
Is Scott attempting humor here? Is his entire oeuvre a put-on? (By “his” I refer to Scott, not Eisenstein. Or, for completeness, to Einstein.) Is it still a joke if the teller of the joke doesn’t know it’s a joke?
Its a side show. The real issue is Divine intervention. So do some of your own… You tell me how does the speed of light and mass create the amount of energy it produces in Joules?
It doesn’t create anything. E=mC^2 is an equation. The units of energy are mv^2, which is why the equation has the same units on both sides. You could use any units you like as long as they’re consistent, cgs, mks, pounds/miles/hours, doesn’t matter. You get the same results.
So was “Eisenstein” a conscious joke on your part, or was it accidental as with (apparently) the great majority of your malapropisms?
I guess it would matter if you had an equation with light involved somewhere else but its not like that. It could be 300,000,000 Elephants squared. Now if the weight of the elephant mattered then it would all explode… But Meters is not involved in the math. its just the numbers of mass in KG that matters.
Taking ‘m’ as 1 kg. 1 kg of matter = E = mc2 = 1 x c2 = 1 x (3 x 108) 2 = 9x1016 Joules = 25 x10 9 kWh, that is 25.0 billion kilowatt-hours.
Light has nothing to do with it. It just disappears and isn’t part of it.
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Someone tell me Im right.
I will admit, I did not quite comprehend the depths of your incomprehension on this issue. Your question is more akin to “How can a Farenheit thermometer measure the temperature in degrees Farenheit? Is that just some coincidence?”
So I can appreciate that you were not able to get much from that video.
Uh huh. So maybe you could finally answer the questions you were asked about that, and stop regaling us with weapons grade comedy like this:
you make me laugh. I was holding this thermometer up side down And it proves that it gets hotter when you are upside down! So I tried it. and stood on my head. and its true I did feel hotter! LoL.
Some also call it a divine appointment. Its God intervening to set up a meeting that might seem like chance but its not.
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For example: I had a guy working for me, helping me on a deck. The customers daughter came over. She wanted me to fix her bathroom to take me off the deck to do that. I said no. I finish one thing at a time. Im not leaving your parents deck to work on your bathroom but I could do it after…
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So the next day my worker was going on a trip. he traveled for a couple hours to a spot, the big apple off the 401 in Ontario. And there she is. This same Customers daughter is there at the Big Apple, just out there for no special reason. They had never met in their life but met twice in less than 24 hours.
As a Christian I take that as a cause to share the gospel. I realize that I am having this person thrown in front of me.
Now this guy didn’t see it that way cause he doesn’t grasp it. He is a christian… BUT BUT I told him about divine appointments just the day before so it perked his interest.
Wait for it. I told Him I would pray for 3 of these things to happen for him so he could see that God is in the business.
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So off he goes into New York I think with his family, and they are just traveling and he says, you know, I was in the army with a guy who moved to the states and I think he said he bought a Dairy Queen. I wonder if he did. I think its in this city we are driving through… So he goes to a phone booth and the phone book is gone… So he said, well we can drive and see if we come across a dairy queen we can ask… So he sees one and he goes in. Its hot so they are just about to get a cone and while in line, someone yells from behind him Hey Pinkus. And he turns around its the guy. the guy… they guy. And they all talk and it turns out he lives close by but this wasn’t his dairy queen but because it was hot he thought he would drop in and get one and maybe grab/borrow something they needed. That chance meeting is ridiculous.
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I cant remember the 3rd one, but the 4th is he comes home and says, hey, my brother wants me to look at a lot to buy to put a car lot on. Can you come with me to check it out… I said sure. After that we see a hitch hiker… We pick him up. He wants to go to Canington So we say we could take him half way but because he is a drywall’r we got talking and went the whole way… But I said, You know I did a job in Toronto just a few months ago and the electricians worker was from Cannington. but he was moving… The guy says, well there is a guy who lives next to me who is also moving to the East coast and had a heart attack so he didn’t leave yet…
So we decided to knock on the door. My Friend is surprised at all these “coincidences” just hitting him over and over… And sure enough. Its the guy. So of course I shared the gospel, just in case he croaks.
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I honestly should think about it more and do more. Now that I reflect on it. It happens so often I should be more responsible. If you are not “in the life” its not the same.
I can partly agree with that.
It has to do with Maxwell’s equations, which show that there should be electromagnetic waves. And if you computer the speed of that wave motion, it turns out to be about the same as the measured speed of light. This is why we have concluded that light is electromagnetic.
The speed that we get out of Maxwell’s equations is related to our system of measurement, particularly measurement of electrical and magnetic properties. So the c in E=mc^2 is not just an arbitrary big number. There is strong science behind it.
Thank you. You are the first person to suggest that maybe light in some way is related to the cause of the mass. The thing is What is Light. in that case… is it per square inch? or per square meter. the speed is what is focused on. Not the content of the light or the amount of light traveling to relate it to and effect that could be related to a KG.
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This is where people generally fail they accept something without digging into it. At least you are seeing the mechanical side of the equation. Which makes me think about what sort of wavelength. if there is some action inside atoms and 1KG has X amount of action at the speed of light what action is that. And am I chasing something that is just not there. And that is why I am saying, so far, I see no reason to add meters into the equation so its not really C its not even speed… Its just a number. Until someone like yourself can crack that open… Otherwise, Einstein and Joules was pulling a fast one on mankind. The equation works, but the Light business is crap maybe he was right but I have a feeling he did not know why. Or all the bright perky people here would know why exactly and say why.
Nobody ever will. Joules are defined by kilograms x (meters/second)^2. C is a velocity that can be expressed in meters/second. If you wanted your result in ergs, you would count mass in grams and C in centimeters/second. How hard can this be to understand? C has nothing special to do with light. It appears as a constant in many physics equations, including Maxwell’s.
ITs interesting to conceive of light in relationship to work performed. And if that is so, if a KG is converted in just light how much light is that and in what wavelength. And if you converted the numbers I don’t think the equation would work.
Scott, sincerely, you are a good story teller and I’m sure you would be very entertaining to meet in real life.
But I’m struggling to see the divine interventions. I’m seeing your perception of events that don’t require any supernatural explanation.
One small victory by Europe.
your right. they don’t need divine intervention. Events can happen like that. They call it coincidence. Like going on holiday on a cruise only to see your neighbor 2 doors down on the same cruise in the next cabin beside you. Coincidences happen. So really you couldn’t know one from the other.
Now, most times when I figure its not is when the coincidence is pretty strange and there is some other factor.
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For example: I was down in Woodstock building a couple houses with my buddy Peter. We were talking about this same thing… Its a thing for me… So I discuss it… Its not a “proof of God” for me its just God being with me… but I do know it helps other people to believe so I use it. (and in this case my buddy needed some encouragement.)
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So we were at Wendies for lunch and he for some reason while on the phone left his brief case on the roof of the truck… he figures. And We drove back and then when he needed his brief case it was gone. So distressed he says, well, see why do these things happen to me. I said, No some way some how you can know that God will help you with it. And that by some coincidence or chain of events you will be fine you will get it back or there will be some reason for it. Then the phone rings and its the building department and they know him.
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They say, we found your brief case. The Building inspector saw it on the road, stopped and picked it up and opened it and saw it was yours, your name was on your cheques. So, its your brief case we have it at the building department.
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It was just as easy for some kids to have found it on that street and for them to take the contents. Instead responsible people who knew him found it. There was two or three events there too but I cant remember now. I really should write them down.
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Its so bad some times that while sharing my faith with a Preachers daughter when they visited the job site, I had the christian radio station on. As I was speaking they literally said the same sentence I was saying in sink with me saying. It was really freaky. That Minster needed a bit of encouragement as well.
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I was on a roll one day and I was trying to encourage an old friend who worked with me on a few jobs for cash. We were shingling a roof just around the corner from my house. And : pause. (I just realized I might be an encourage. Its a spiritual gift. In a list of gifts.) who knew… But anyways, So Len, who is dead now needed some encouraging and I was joking around and I had only 10 shingles left to finish the roof. it was a cottage style roof. And I nailed a piece on the left and because we were talking I saw a piece and nailed it on the right. and then said bugger. now I have a space in the middle. And I said to him. Lets see if God is with me today. I grab a full shingle and drop it down and it fits exactly square on both sides between the two shingles. I don’t know if I could repeat that 10 times but that is exceptional to be able to do that. Its a little more than parallel parking. I have had the same thing happen with lumber needing a piece and it fits exactly snug in the spot but that can randomly happen over the number of times I cut wood one is bound to be the right size.
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I will give you one that cant be coincidence on another reply.