Günter Bechly on Origins

I didn’t pick that up from his presentation: indeed, his strongest evidence was palaeontological, and that interpretation of palaeontological and genetic evidence on his saltational model tends to resolve the discrepancies between the two in the standard model.

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Just visted his website, and am surprised that anyone should be confused over where he stands on common descent, because he states his position plainly, as he did in the McLatchie presentation. This:

I personally have come to reject common ancestry as naturalistic mode of macroevolution in favor of a sophisticated version of progressive (Old Earth) special creation in terms of non-random adaptive macromutations in the “womb” of parental organisms (analogous to Schindewolf’s and Goldschmidt’s “hopeful monsters”, recently endorsed by Rieppel 2017, as well as other representatives of saltationism, mutationism and orthogenesis) combined with the instantiation of a new form that preexisted as template in the mind of the designer (“special transformism” sensu Chaberek 2017). Nevertheless, I do affirm that every organism (apart from the first living cell) was produced / born from a biological parent organism and thus did not pop into being ex nihilo. I also affirm microevolutionary speciation within biological kinds through Neodarwinian processes.

Seems pretty clear to me.

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*Bechly, but yes.

Gunter Bechey on Origins

Name correction: On his website, his name is spelled “Bechly”.

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He resigned in 2016 or after.
Günter Bechly

To find an independent source might require searching German web sites.

This is better:
A Respected Scientist Comes Out Against Evolution – and Loses His Wikipedia Page - Science & Health - Haaretz.com

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He resigned in late 2016, after declaring his support for ID in mid-late 2015 (IIRC).

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You’re not implying that is a bad thing, right? I’ve certainly been convinced by evidence from outside my field, and I’m sure that is true of all of us.

Thanks to all… the name in the title has been fixed.

For heavens sake, @Swamidass. He is publicly documented in writing and on video. Go to Evolution News.

https://evolutionnews.org/2017/10/wikipedia-erases-paleontologist-gunter-bechly/

https://evolutionnews.org/2018/03/disallowing-dissent-the-case-of-peter-ridd/

Or this
https://evolutionnews.org/2017/02/happy_darwin_da/

Not only has his Wikipedia page been wiped, but so have his publications and species named and described. https://species.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Günter_Bechly

I have descriptions of others quoting Guünter, but will ask him if he has written anything public himself.

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I’m ignorant on the details and was just asking. Thanks for informing me. This seems to be an example that took place recently, not around 2005. Wish you had brought it up before…

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What? This is apropos of what? Brought what up?

There are some useful links included in the OP that lead to EN articles that cover “the Bechly affair.” Ann was kind enough to re-post them. Thanks @Ann!

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@Mung @swamidass
I don’t know if I included this one.
https://evolutionnews.org/2017/02/happy_darwin_da/
I have video I recorded this year where I am talking to Günter. It includes his recounting of events. I’ll let you know if it gets published.
So I know first hand from Günter what happened. Deja vu.

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Looking at the edit history of that particular wiki page it doesn’t seem like anything was deleted.

Was it potentially to compare to “Wikipedia”?

Not given what Ann actually said:

I’m with you on this one @Agauger . That seems like playing dirty. Just because he is ID doesn’t mean his prior work should be memory holed. I wonder how that can be fixed…

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I see no evidence that his page of taxa was wiped:
https://species.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Category:Günter_Bechly_taxa

Notice it says “Last edited 3 years ago”. When you click on this text to view the edit history, you can see that nothing has changed since the page was first created.

@evograd Excuse my ignorance, but are wikimedia and wikipedia published by the same group (i.e. the same information) or are they different sources?

This web archive does show many more species and pubs cited, though:

To Gunter’s credit, it appears he has been active in research, with several publications in reputable journals this last year.

https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=byMvnWsAAAAJ&view_op=list_works&sortby=pubdate

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