Is Helicase a House of Cards?

[swamidass (S. Joshua Swamidass)]

@colewd

He dodged the very first one Dr. Swamidass asked. Where is the empirical evidence natural processes can’t produce 500 bits of FI in biological life?

You think the is a serious question? Asking your opponent to prove a negative. Did Josh really ask it?

Yes I did.

@colewd

Gpuccio made the claim, it’s perfectly good form to ask him to support it.

No, he did not.

Yes he did…

@gpuccio

I am arguing that there is evidence of design any time that we observe new complex functional information, higher than 500 bits for example, arise. Of course, also in the origin of phyla.

@gpuccio

But, of course, those 500+ bits of FI must arise in the system at some time, and must not be present before. IOWs, we need the appearance of new complex FI in the system, to infer a design intervention.

@gpuccio

My analysis is absolutely quantitative.

@gpuccio

An important premise is that my personal approach to ID theory is completely empirical. It requires no special philosophy or worldview, except some good epistemology and philosophy of science.

So I then ask:

@swamidass

What empirical evidence do you have that demonstrates FI increases are unique to design?

To which we have not recieved emperical evidence, but statements like these:

@gpuccio

This strong connection between high FI levels and a design origin has, of course, a rationale. But its foundation is completey empirical. We can observe that connection practically everywhere.

@gpuccio

The rationale could be expressed as follows: there is no known necessity law that generates those levels of FI without any design intervention. Therefore, FI in non design systems can arise only by chance

We have provided counter examples. True, we have not explained them in detail. However, there are several examples that have FI but do not arise from design.