New Thread: is Information important... if God?

[gbrooks9 (George)]

I kick off this thread with the final thread by @EricMH. I’m not sure how it happened, but he got into some intense discussion where it seemed like some kind of Either/Or crossroads was reached. And he said he was leaving:

The EricMH Information Argument and Simulation

I’ve yet to see any substantial counter from you. I make a clear theoretical argument. You dismiss it because of practical implementation issues. That is a non sequitur.

It appears my argument is invalid in this forum because I do not have a research job where I can devote loads of time and students to fulfilling someone’s needs to empirically validate math. The little amount of time I can devote to research between working a full time non academic job and family is better spent thinking through the theory, and only reducing to practice where it actually is relevant, so I probably will not be back.

I found this all very odd and disconcerting. This site should not pose an Either/Or dilemma when the two sides are BOTH Christian!

Why should it matter whether information can or cannot be quantified in a God led sequence of Creations?

Readers… please help keep posters on point: we are not here to PROVE OR DISPROVE I.D.!

We are here to PROVE that God can create a Cosmos using both natural and MIRACULOUS acts of creation!

[swamidass (S. Joshua Swamidass)]

Why should it matter whether information can or cannot be quantified in a God led sequence of Creations?

It matters a lot to ID is that can be proven. He had an argument and wanted to make it.

[gbrooks9 (George)]

It matters a lot to ID is that can be proven. He had an argument and wanted to make it.

@swamidass

Now is the time to bring Peacefulness to bear. Christians don’t fuss with other Christians about SCIENCE PROVING that Jesus was resurrected. It irrelevant.

And so is this non-stop dispute whether we can use information theory to PROVE God’s influence on Creation.

If we can stop and pause… and say these 3 things:

1] We MIGHT be able to use Science to PROVE God was involved…
2] It is a little LESS LIKELY that science can prove HOW he created.
3] But we agree God created using TWO WAYS…

Then PeacefulScience.Org is doing it’s job.

I personally don’t think I.D. can be scientifically proven… but my doubts are not important enough to create a new denomination over the issue!

[swamidass (S. Joshua Swamidass)]

You have some good points here.