What is fitness?

[Giltil (Gilbert Thill)]

@thoughtful

@Timothy_Horton

Something the size of a battleship. Sanford’s claim is based on the YEC premise all species were created de novo only 6000 years ago and all have been degrading ever since. That premise was falsified over two centuries ago. We have tons of evidence life has been on the planet and not going extinct for over 3.5 BILLION years. I showed you DNA recovered from a fossil horse dating to 700,000 years ago, remember? Since life has been here that long without all going extinct from GE that means SANFORD IS WRONG. I really don’t know how to make it any simpler than that.

#headdesk

Again, that’s “it’s wrong because that’s not how we got here”

Find a better rebuttal. Perhaps aliens created us 20,000 years ago. Creationism doesn’t have to be true for it to be correct.

Valérie, it is important to see that Sanford’s primary thesis is not that everything is going extinct, but that given only strict neo-Darwinism theory (RV+NS), all life forms are doomed to extinction (see in appendix 5 of his book his response to the objection that persistence of various forms of life disproves GE)