Chemically and Electrically Assisted Nuclear Reactions and YEC

This development is ironically related to YEC, but first the article:

This was reported in a magazine of a respected association, the IEEE:

Scientists in the U.S. and Japan Get Serious About Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions

It’s absolutely, definitely, seriously not cold fusion

It’s been a big year for low-energy nuclear reactions. LENRs, as they’re known, are a fringe research topic that some physicists think could explain the results of an infamous experiment nearly 30 years ago that formed the basis for the idea of cold fusion. That idea didn’t hold up, and only a handful of researchers around the world have continued trying to understand the mysterious nature of the inconsistent, heat-generating reactions that had spurred those claims.

Nucleosynthesis and nuclear transformations can contribute to the profile of isotopes in various objects.

There is 70 times more uranium on the continents than on the ocean floor. Radio isotope profiles also show an mysterious absence of radio activity on the ocean floor vs. the continents. This is also suggestive that there might not be very much radio active material inside the Earth as postulated. We don’t know!

In 2011 I did a term paper for one of my physics classes on chemical and electrical means of nuclear transmutation and synthesis and neutron generation. I was astounded at the number of experiments and observations that had been conducted starting with Neutron detections from lightning strikes reported in the prestigious scientific journal nature in the 1980’s…

The goal of some of the research is to create feasible energy sources, but as far as YEC is concerned, net energy generation is not the issue, the issue is whether there are nuclear transformation mechanisms that are electrical or chemical.

One YEC theory is piezo electric influence associated with the flood cataclysm.

This video details some one of the YEC theories of radiation which I find a lot less outrageous than all the multiverse advocacy I’m seeing of late:

If this is correct, or close to correct, this could account for some of the supposed long ages of the non biological content of rocks.

BIG LOL! Are we really going to get someone trying to defend Wacky Wally Brown’s Hydroplate nonsense? :smile:

It’s not correct or even close to correct.


It may be respected, but is it prestigious?

The rest is Gish gallop. What does any of it have to do with radiometric dating? You don’t actually say.

“…More and more astronomers are concluding that lightning must have been present in outer space…”

“…large inland seas appear as deep craters…”

This falls in to the category not even close to wrong.

Your bathroom scale invalidates radiometric dating?

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I remember reading an article where some creationist suggested that during Noah’s flood “the waters bursted from the depths of the Earth” with such a force that it created an electric current(because that’s what happens when you shoot water on rocks?) so strong it altered the natural decay rate so much that 3.8 billion years worth of decay could be squeezed into a few thousand.

How this electric current failed to vaporize the rock instead, we weren’t told. But you know, Big Fludde happend says GOD, so Big Electricity came also, straight into the nucleus of atoms. Didn’t break chemical bonds between the atoms in the rock. Nope, the current (which is a stream of charged particles) just shot straight into the nuclei of already radioactive atoms, making them decay faster, but left all the rest of the stable nuclei untouched, and didn’t touch the chemical bonds.

Chemical bonds, made of shared valence of electrons. Unaffected by an electric current so strong it causes nuclear decay.

Kids, this is your brain on creationism.


The Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) is the premier organization in the computing, communications, and power field. IEEE has over 400,000 members worldwide. Its first two Fellows were Alexander Graham Bell and Thomas Edison. I have been a member for 44 years and was elected Fellow in 1998. IEEE publishes most of the technical journals in the electrical, electronic and computer fields. IEEE and its members inspire a global community to innovate for a better tomorrow through highly cited publications, conferences, technology standards, and professional and educational activities. IEEE is the trusted “voice” for engineering, computing, and technology information around the globe.

On the flip side, they’ve published some of my work.

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Yes, and I am sure that all your submissions were pier reviewed, worthy of publication for being novel, and in scope with the journal you submitted to.

They were conference proceedings rather than journals, but yes, they were all worthy and in scope for supporting piers.


You’re making way too much out of a joke: Sal needs to refer to everything he likes as “prestigious”. I will admit that “respected” is a reasonable substitute.

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I would say that many of IEEE Journals are prestigious. They represent the latest science and technology in the world.

I’m a big fan of Wacky Wally!

This discussion makes me nostalgic for Gene Ray’s Time Cube:


POSTSCRIPT: Only a few die-hard fans today will remember that Chemically and Electrically Assisted Nuclear Reactions and YEC was a short-lived Marvel Comic™ back in the 1950’s. There was only that one premier issue. In retrospect, the title character was poorly conceived—although, come to think of it, he looked a lot like Ken Ham. He had a nicer cape, however.

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The acronym for that seems to be CEANRY. But, for Ken Ham, I always preferred “CARNY”.


What is your point, exactly?

That’s not consistent with Stellar origin of Uranium since one would expect it would be spread out more evenly.

One of YEC models attempts to connect the continental distribution with the mechanisms of piezo electric nuclear transmutation . Bryan Nickel, who authored the video, connects the continental Uranium and absence of Sea floor uranium to YEC models and uses this as evidence against Stellar origin of Uranium.

FURTHERMORE, solar system evolution doesn’t work. I read a book on Solar System Evolution, and even though it was intended to criticize Creationism, when so chapter ended with, “this is a diffucult unresolved problem” it made me believe the Solar System was created, not evolved.

The question then for Creeationists is whether Uranium was created or the product of events after Creation. One YEC model suggests its the product of electrical nuclear transmutation.

But it is consistent with a model of stellar origin of Uranium and a long subsequent history of crustal formation and evolution.


That is all it took? Then there is happy news, progress is being made:

New Horizons team uncovers a critical piece of the planetary formation puzzle

The Most Distant World We’ve Ever Explored Just Shed Light on How Planets Are Born

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Still not following the point? It’s a joke about Sal’s need to label his sources as “prestigious”.

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YEC: worst boy sidekick ever.