What about the animals in the fossil record that are kind of like turtles but not exactly turtles by what I’m thinking your definition is?
Are these turtles?
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I suspect the answer is: “You’re very clever, young man, but it’s no use. It’s turtles all the way down!”
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Nope. The last one, maybe road kill but nope. Not turtles. And are they here today? in the top two sure they are. lizards. The bottom one might have been born with a birth defect without a shell some how. nope. Not the evolution of turtles.
That’s an even worse answer than “it’s turtles all the way down.” I had not imagined such a thing was possible.
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I was looking at the family tree they provided. Its literally a hoax. You can see it from a mile away and the missing links are where you would expect them to be if it was a hoax. They literally wrote in lizards into this tree and the actual grand daddy and final Turtle are basically the same thing.
There is a great example of the crime on full display.
Do lizards typically have widened ribs that have partially fused together?
yes. yes they do.
I got to say cause i got to give credit to God. If there was ever a thing I loved more than Dogs. It would be Turtles and Lizards. And maybe Octopus. There are so many varieties and details. And maybe Pray-mantis and birds. And maybe a few other things… LoL. But seriously. There is a beauty in design, a coolness a excellence no random genetic alteration could bring to the table. I wish they all had a mirror and knew how beautiful they were.
Same here, to a large extent. However, this has nothing to do with my comment. You are really someone who deserves to be ignored because you make little to no sense and are not willing to make changes.
Nice to know.
That’s a lot better than yours whose value was lost the very day you began throwing out your typically nonsensical arguments. Due to your nonsense many folks have to wear helmets when reading your comments: killing mosquitoes since childhood made my forehead facepalm-resistant, so I don’t need a helmet.
I don’t a give a hoot man.
When people carefully explain why your statements are wrong, that’s neither a personal attack nor bickering. It’s something you should learn from. Arrogance and pride are sins to Christians, and you need to deal with them.
(I would make an exception for Boris, who has his own problems.)
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Who are the hoaxers? This is a serious accusation, and you need to retract it or back it up.
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John. I don’t think I ever called anyone stupid etc… At best, I might say, You are crazy… There is no way this is like that or that someone could believe such a thing cause…
But that that is miles away from the personal attacks people hand out. I wouldn’t mind if they had some grand theory they were imparting or great proof. But still there is no need for the one. And almost 99% of the time there is no content. The turtles was a nice addition. I love content… Still it didn’t prove a point but proved my point in that discussion. But still that is nice. This sort of vacant bickering was why I got divorced.
Same with Christmas. I will change my schedule and have a loose schedule. The kids can say when they will be coming cause they both have work. I don’t need the bickering. or I don’t know. I will see… Either commit to coming or not. To me. the trouble is to much trouble
And in the same way it makes a website into a soap opera.
Congratulations? I think you will find that only one person here is calling you stupid. The rest are explaining why you’re wrong, which is not at all the same. Again, I suggest that you should be learning here.
Sherlock everyone including me has something to learn. I do and have said I value people and their knowledge. That said, I am no fool. I can be wrong about everything thing. All history cant be wrong but someone else here right yet never prove their proofs… You can use just about any Science to lambaste someone with.
You know what I like about Elon Musk. He is a skip it sort of guy. I watched hours of him working and speaking to issues and what is refreshing is he is business he gets into the weeds and right to the point.
I like that. I think Right and true and obvious is easy to see. You and others know Christians are not off their rockers otherwise you wouldn’t be on this site. UNLESS… Unless what. I was born at night but It wasn’t last night.
And funny thing is In my life Almost all the customers I have had, maybe 80% were teachers or CEO’s etc. Only a couple were condescending. I know it when I see it. One great family with a nasty teacher sort now retired the last time was the way some are here today. Even though he professes to be Catholic. So, before he could be his condescending self I treated him like he was a dummy. He wanted to help do siding with me. I said, thats great, but it will be difficult working with someone who doesn’t know what they are doing. A totally unnecessary thing to say. And before he could start like he would normally I asked him why he didn’t get the next piece ready. And when he started I said you don’t mind if I put on my music, it will be better than having to listen to you.
I am not a novice at the lack of bedside manner these small minded people have. Here or anywhere. Its their small brain not me being a novice. Just to be clear.
I think I’ve just been accused of being small-minded. But you seem very defensive and unwilling to learn, though you claim otherwise. You certainly ignore almost everything I tell you. I will probably stop trying soon.
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Everything doesn’t have to be a ultimatum. Why not just do what you want when you want and ask people to do what you want and if they do so be it and if they dont so be it. And then next time, do the same thing.
Those are chuckwallas. Some of them have slightly widened ribs but not to the degree of Eunotosaurus or the stem turtles I referenced. They certainly don’t have part of a carapace fused to them either. Also to note is that the widened ribs of Eunotosaurus may have evolved as an adaptation for burrowing, something chuckwallas don’t typically do so this is not a great analogue to the ancestors of turtles you’re erroneously referring to as lizards.
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There have been no ultimatums. What are you talking about?
Oh boy. That’s just rich coming from you. You behave just like a creationist when presented with ideas you’ve never heard of or thought of on a subject you know absolutely nothing about. You and others here attack my character in the same way the Discovery Institute attacks the character of Charles Darwin and other “evolutionists” on an almost daily basis in Evolution Blues.
[Account temporarily on hold] LoL. while others can berate me. its rich. that was a bit ago.
and
“You certainly ignore almost everything I tell you. I will probably stop trying soon.”
from a person with a conscience knowing it was a ultimatum and dialed it back.