OK, I’m going to stop responding now. The nonsensical replies are too much for me. Have a nice day.
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See what you started above. Here comes the soap opera… Dinosaurs vs. a Flat Earth. Oh well.
I have been fascinated by stuff you have talked about. Your style of presentation sometimes makes me wince. There’s probably no way for a civilized discussion to happen when emotional commitment outweighs considering claims on their merits. I’m not criticizing you (well, not in particular), but maybe swallowing some frustration and sticking to facts would let me learn more.
The gap between Biblical exegesis and archeological reality is a stark one. It would be fun to see some serious responses to the issues you’ve raised.
Archeology in the Levant has been influenced in the past by religious views and has been and still is subject to political control.
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Thanks. There aren’t going to be any serious responses to the issues I have raised because other than you, there’s no one on this site at all familiar with the subject matter. Several people admitted they had never heard of any of the things I have talked about, astrotheology, the many parallels to the Homeric epics, but within minutes they became “experts” on the subjects. Also, besides claims to the contrary, the people on this site who claimed to have done an academic study of the Bible clearly have not. So, you can look on my Facebook page and see the stuff I have written about the Bible mostly in college. Leave comments and we can discuss these things over there, without all the white noise and dumb comments.
You sound like fouchi, no one knows anything but you. You do know there is whole camps of people only working on translation of the bible. There is literally employed people who has made it their lifes work to translate the bible and they work in teams with no goal other than to literally learn a language only to translate the bible. This is the tip of the iceburg. Across the world there are museums and warehouses of artifacts from history and in particular biblical history. I don’t believe you are being honest. I think you know you are lying through your teeth and intentionally coloring things where possible to hate on Christianity and religion generally. Maybe you might even make it your lifes work. That is so sad.
Like what? There’s no such thing as “biblical history” because the Bible is not a history book nor were any of the books in it ever intended to be. You have a lot of nerve accusing someone else of lying especially after trying to foist the lies of Ron Wyatt on me.
I love it. its like a comedy show.
Christianity? I agree.
You know I mean your comedy show suggesting Christianity, the bible and all the history around it doesn’t exist. Does the website pay you to have such a ridiculous view to keep comments coming???
Boris claims Greek priority for the Old Testament. What are your thoughts on Psalm 119 which is structured on the Hebrew alphabet? The Shiboleth (literally) story of Judges 12:6 which plays on phonetics foreign to Greek?
There are archeological connections in the OT. Sennacherib’s siege of Jerusalem about 700 BC is basically consistent with Isaiah, Kings, and Chronicles, including carbon dating of Hezekiah’s tunnel. The invasion of Judea by Shishak referred to in Kings and Chronicles is supported by Egyptian inscriptions, providing identification with Shoshenq is correct.
But these are just examples. Greek is an entirely distinct Indo-European family language; Hebrew is Semitic, and this makes the LXX throughout permeated with often awkward and misleading translation, where the original Hebrew maintains its poetic flow. The names of people and places in the OT are Semitic; we find Jeroboam and Jeremiah, not Socrates and Homer.
Scott and Boris seem like matter and anti-matter, differing only in polarity. Both make sweeping generalizations about the community with which they are at odds, Scott characterizing atheists as propelled by hate and lust, Boris characterizing church history as some sort of thin air fabrication entirely designed as to control populations. Both denigrate mainstream scholarship in their areas of expertise. Note that Boris had no cogent response to @Chris_Falter’s patiently presented methodological questions.
One does not have to support the idea that the Bible is inspired or historically accurate to dismiss Boris’ contention as just not credible. Many of the atheists here picked up on that right away. You are right in that archeology in the Levant is influenced by political, religious and social views, and there are grounds for skepticism concerning such presumptions. The larger picture promoted by Boris, however, is DOA.
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Now I’m curious. How does the Greek bible handle the word “shiboleth”? (And separate it from “siboleth”.)
Judges 12:6 LXX
καὶ εἶπαν αὐτοῗς εἴπατε δὴ σύνθημα καὶ οὐ κατηύθυναν τοῦ λαλῆσαι οὕτως καὶ ἐπελάβοντο αὐτῶν καὶ ἔσφαξαν αὐτοὺς ἐπὶ τὰς διαβάσεις τοῦ Ιορδάνου καὶ ἔπεσαν ἐξ Εφραιμ ἐν τῷ καιρῷ ἐκείνῳ δύο τεσσαράκοντα χιλιάδες
There is nothing in the above concerning shiboleth-siboleth.
From Ellicot’s commentary
Say now Shibboleth.—The word means “ford;” (Psalm 69:2) “depth of waters;” (Judges 12:15) “water flood;” (Isaiah 27:12) “channel.” The LXX. render it (Cod. B) “an ear of corn” ( Vulg., quod interpretatur spica), and the word might have this meaning also (as it has in Genesis 41:5), because the root from which it is derived means both “to flow” and “to spring.” In the Alexandrian MS. of the LXX. the rendering is, “Tell us then the watchword;” but that is rather an explanation than a translation.
…In the LXX. and Vulg. Shibboleth could not be reproduced, because the sound sh is unknown in Greek and Latin. Hence the LXX. use stachus, “wheat-ear,” for Shibboleth, and leave out Sibboleth altogether.
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How does the story make any sense without the distinction?
To me its comes off pretty muddled in the LXX.
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Sort of like this. Judges 12 is a funny example. Who says the bible doesn’t have authentic real life events happening in it. Imagine that. they say this guy isn’t a real Jew. now say this! LoLol… get that guy.
5 And the Gileadites took the passages of Jordan before the Ephraimites: and it was so, that when those Ephraimites which were escaped said, Let me go over; that the men of Gilead said unto him, Art thou an Ephraimite? If he said, Nay;
6 Then said they unto him, Say now Shibboleth: and he said Sibboleth: for he could not frame to pronounce it right. Then they took him, and slew him at the passages of Jordan: and there fell at that time of the Ephraimites forty and two thousand.
Its a really funny story. but serious .
Im surprised you guys even know about these verses… Are some of you Jewish or heavy bible readers?
This story also reminds me of the story, where the Jewish men who are angry at this bunch of guys who raped one of their women but the other men say, look we want to join you etc. we are sorry… what can we do… and the Jewish guys say, to join us all of you have to be circumcised, and then a few days later after they do it Israel attacks them and they cant fight cause all their privates are raw sore. LoL. You just cant make that story up in the middle of some fake literature. It shows this Jewish bent of sarcastic sort of dry humor. LoL.
I found the reference to the story I was thinking of…
Genesis 34.
13 Because their sister Dinah had been defiled, Jacob’s sons replied deceitfully as they spoke to Shechem and his father Hamor. 14 They said to them, “We can’t do such a thing; we can’t give our sister to a man who is not circumcised. That would be a disgrace to us. 15 We will enter into an agreement with you on one condition only: that you become like us by circumcising all your males. 16 Then we will give you our daughters and take your daughters for ourselves. We’ll settle among you and become one people with you. 17 But if you will not agree to be circumcised, we’ll take our sister and go.”
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Its a distinction that has run through time itself. Sort of like Santa Clause there are reasons for the story and they tie back to events that are real and while the final thing we see today may be obscured a bit its easy to trace back. No one in their right mind would start a book club that would include circumcision.
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Oh, sure there are. 186,000 men all dying in one night. Now that is an example of DOA. 
That’s more men that invaded France on D-Day. My post 104 complete debunks that “methodological” piece of desperation. Read that.
There is history around the Bible but there’s no history in the Bible. The people behind this site and especially on it hate me with a passion. Most of them are just too arrogant to admit they’re wrong even though they now know they are.