New Book on the Origin of Life

[T_aquaticus]

@thoughtful

In cosmology, the Big Bang Model is slightly out of order, leading to inconsistent results. I think it’s likely the expansion of the universe is not accelerating. I wonder if it’s actually expanding at all.

What’s out of order? What are these inconsistent results? Why do you doubt the expansion of the universe?

There are quite a few things any new theory is going to have to deal with:

1. The correlation between distance and redshift. Why are more distant galaxies more strongly redshifted?

2. The CMB. This background radiation was predicted by the Big Bang model before it was discovered in the 1960’s.

3. The ratio of elements. The Big Bang model makes predictions about the ratios of light elements in the universe, and those predictions have been supported by subsequent experiments.

Those are just 3 sets of observations off the top of my head, and they all fit very neatly into the BB theory.

[Rumraket (Mikkel R.)]

@thoughtful

You and I both know that all of that is Christian sin and none of it is based on the Bible

No we don’t know that at all, and all these ideas have been advanced with utmost sincerity by people who were just as strong in their faith as you are.

But of course, if you’re really right, it’s really sad to consider how we might have avoided millennia of biblically baseless Christian superstitions if only 21st century creationists could have traveled back in time to explain to these people how to correctly understand their holy book. And I also have to confess to further sadness when contemplating how centuries from now, people who’re finally correctly understanding the Bible would wish for the ability to travel back in time and correct you on what the Bible really means to say.

[ProfBravus (David Geelan)]

@r_speir

You could not be further from the truth. And this is precisely what is so unfortunate because this misunderstanding of Creation science is perpetuated forward. We try hard, very hard to head this off by producing very real science and oftentimes getting very real results, but alas. The stigma in minds like yours is sometimes, many times, almost impossible to overcome.

Rather than disparage my reluctantly-offered attempt, then, please offer a correct definition.

[Faizal_Ali]

@thoughtful

In the same way, even if we never know for certain God exists, it does not prove that He didn’t create it all.

The difference is you guys aren’t even trying to provide evidence for this or explain how it was done. You just sit on the sidelines and make lame criticisms of the scientists actually trying to figure out OoL.

[ho_idiotes (Matt)]

I can’t remember everything about this book that I am hearing, but I just found out that the genetic code isn’t a genetic code, but is rather a genetic cipher! Useful, no… interesting, if you are weird like me.

Lots of the book so far hasn’t really dealt with the origins of life per-se but is giving a history of the science behind genetics. Some really comedic parts about the lives of some of those involved, including Haldane (hopefully it was him) and his antics. Apart from the fact that I am listening and not reading, I think it is an accessible enough book for folks to pick up and read